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Temat: Roman Polanski Arrested on 30 year old charges

I think someone in US is using this for a political advantage probably...
Although they have good reason... for not attending the case and scattering off to Europe, Polański has made himself look untrustworthy despite the fact this girl, now a 40y-o woman has asked for leaving him alone. Law gets you sooner or later.
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Michal B.:
... I agree that my choice of the word "unsolved" was quite unfortunate.
What about your choice of proverb/quote/poem bit?

If you seriously think you don't know whether he's guilty or not, you shouldn't have used this "mills of God" mumbo-jumbo.
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Mateusz W.

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Michal B.:
ilter K.:
Then, can you please explain your above statement?

If one is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl, one has to prove one's innocence or bear the consequences. Polański just ran away and justice is justice. Tha's all I meant. :)

Nope, he doesn't have to prove anything.
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Andrzej S.:
Law gets you sooner or later.

Right, I think this is not about him being guilty or not but about some respect for the law in general. So I would not be surprised if he got punished, if deported, not for the original "crime" but for messing up with justice system.
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Temat: Roman Polanski Arrested on 30 year old charges

ilter K.:
Michal B.:
... I agree that my choice of the word "unsolved" was quite unfortunate.
What about your choice of proverb/quote/poem bit?

If you seriously think you don't know whether he's guilty or not, you shouldn't have used this "mills of God" mumbo-jumbo.
Ilter (?)
First of all, it is a proverb.
Secondly, my point was not to say whether he is guilty or inncocent. My point was that he shouldn't have run away. Doing it, he gave up fighting for his innocence. His mistake. And if he is guilty, he has to bear the consequences. The girl was 13 years old and the law is clear about having sex with a minor.
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Mateusz Wodziński:
Michal B.:
ilter K.:
Then, can you please explain your above statement?

If one is accused of raping a 13-year-old girl, one has to prove one's innocence or bear the consequences. Polański just ran away and justice is justice. Tha's all I meant. :)

Nope, he doesn't have to prove anything.

Well, obviously, you have a choice.:)
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Lol, maybe I'm wrong as I didn't read about the matter too much, but I think that it should be up to the girl whom he "raped" (and who is now a grown up woman) to decide if she wants to sue him or not. If she does want it - he should answer in court, if not, in my thinking there's no issue.
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Michal B.:
Ilter (?)
Yes, you can call me Ilter. That's my real name. I don't have a hidden persona. At least in here.
First of all, it is a proverb.
Thank you.
Secondly, my point was not to say whether he is guilty or inncocent.
I don't know about your point, really. I just had a theory and that's why I asked the question.

But I think you have a different understanding than mine, about that proverb.

It reads, something like "He who needs to be punished will be punished. God watches all, and the day of reckoning will come"
(the sentence is taken from here: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=864031 , but what I understand is exactly the same)

In this situation, I don't think you refer to "justice" as proving him innocent. Just the opposite.

Further you explain yourself, I'm more convinced that you think he is guilty.

No problems with that.
He already admitted he had sex with her. Not as you claimed, "raping" though.
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Paweł Gąsior:
Lol, maybe I'm wrong as I didn't read about the matter too much, but I think that it should be up to the girl whom he "raped" (and who is now a grown up woman) to decide if she wants to sue him or not. If she does want it - he should answer in court, if not, in my thinking there's no issue.

No. If it's a civil case, then she would have the choice. However, I believe that in the case of sex with minors, it's a criminal case. Then it's not up to the victim but up to the criminal justice system
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Paweł Gąsior:
Lol, maybe I'm wrong as I didn't read about the matter too much, but I think that it should be up to the girl whom he "raped" (and who is now a grown up woman) to decide if she wants to sue him or not. If she does want it - he should answer in court, if not, in my thinking there's no issue.
I think there's still an issue. It's a crime to have sex with minors.

Edit. Exactly, like Steve said.ilter K. edytował(a) ten post dnia 28.09.09 o godzinie 13:20
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I've read "Roman", Polanski's autobiography. Firstly, he says he was seduced and secondly the girl didn't appear underage at all. She could have done it on purpose to claim compensation.
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Steve Jones:
No. If it's a civil case, then she would have the choice. However, I believe that in the case of sex with minors, it's a criminal case. Then it's not up to the victim but up to the criminal justice system

Of cource, in principle you're right but it's quite sad that it's not the law which serves human but it's the human to serve the law which is more important than common sense.
As I never heard that Polanski was a notorious raper of minors I simply think that it was an issue between those two (and their families) becouse none else got hurt.
For me it's bad that in all discussion the opinion of the girl is lost and has no importance. I think it's just inhuman.
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Michal B.:
I agree that my choice of the word "unsolved"
was quite unfortunate.
No it was fine. I was just playing with words. I always end up saying your English is great, Michal.
Your English is great, Michal.
But don't have sex with miners.

Obrazek
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Dave A.:
Michal B.:
I agree that my choice of the word "unsolved"
was quite unfortunate.
No it was fine. I was just playing with words. I always end up saying your English is great, Michal.
Your English is great, Michal.
But don't have sex with miners.

Yeah. Playing with words is always great fun. But the point is that
you play for fun and to humiliate me. :) The message is clear - not the first time. Bye.
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Michal B.:
Yeah. Playing with words is always great fun. But the point is that
you play for fun and to humiliate me. :) The message is clear - not the first time. Bye.
Michal - you used the right word. In the right place. Don't be paranoid.
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Michal, Dave was joking, but not in a malicious way.

Honestly.

Just a play on words.warren whitmore edytował(a) ten post dnia 28.09.09 o godzinie 17:44
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Dave A.:
But don't have sex with miners.

I love the smell of methane in the morning!
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Kasia Budzińska:
I've read "Roman", Polanski's autobiography. Firstly, he says he was seduced and secondly the girl didn't appear underage at all. She could have done it on purpose to claim compensation.

Oh, come on! A poor unsuspecting innocent 44-year-old was seduced by a ruthless manipulating 13-year old :-D. It does not matter that the girl was drugged by him (undoubtedly in good faith :-) ) before that. If he was a bloke from down the road, people would call him a peadophile and no 'artists' would try to defend him.
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Mateusz W.

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Kasia Budzińska:
I've read "Roman", Polanski's autobiography. Firstly, he says he was seduced and secondly the girl didn't appear underage at all. She could have done it on purpose to claim compensation.

It's a good thing the American justice system doesn't read biographies and doesn't seem to think the same..

Otherwise, every pedophile raping a 13 yr old girl would have an easy excuse saying that

a)he was seduced

b)she didn't really look all that young

c) and even if, well, it's her fault, cuz she might've been trying to extort money.
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Temat: Roman Polanski Arrested on 30 year old charges

On the other hand, leaving your 13 years old daughter with a movie director alone doesn't sound like a good behaviour for a mom, does it?

OK, it doesn't take the guilt away from the criminal, but what about the idiot (?) parent factor?

It'd flash like: "THE PROBLEM!" to me. Does that mean I'm paranoid?

"We trusted him" doesn't/wouldn't cut it for me.
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